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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:23 pm

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PokerStars Hand #96359155723: Tournament #711493408, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2013/03/29 19:10:44 ET
Table '711493408 18' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: sinner666999 (3380 in chips)
Seat 2: tomycta (1355 in chips)
Seat 4: ryan1111 (1605 in chips)
Seat 5: alinandra (3801 in chips)
Seat 6: MST1979 (6028 in chips)
Seat 7: klimassvd (1111 in chips)
Seat 8: Mikwej (1505 in chips)
Seat 9: wowman123 (1905 in chips)
ryan1111: posts small blind 75
alinandra: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [3d 3c]
MST1979: folds
klimassvd: folds
Mikwej: raises 1355 to 1505 and is all-in
wowman123: folds
sinner666999: folds
tomycta: folds
ryan1111:??

#2 on the bubble

PokerStars Hand #96359186400: Tournament #711493408, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2013/03/29 19:11:21 ET
Table '711493408 18' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: sinner666999 (3380 in chips)
Seat 2: tomycta (1355 in chips)
Seat 4: ryan1111 (1530 in chips)
Seat 5: alinandra (5381 in chips)
Seat 6: MST1979 (6028 in chips)
Seat 7: klimassvd (1111 in chips)
Seat 8: Raftur (2340 in chips)
Seat 9: wowman123 (1905 in chips)
alinandra: posts small blind 75
MST1979: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [7h 7c]
klimassvd: folds
Raftur: folds
wowman123: folds
sinner666999: raises 3230 to 3380 and is all-in
tomycta: folds
ryan1111:??

#3
PokerStars Hand #96359800105: Tournament #711493408, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2013/03/29 19:23:45 ET
Table '711493408 13' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Catchup666 (4540 in chips)
Seat 2: dada2333 (2985 in chips)
Seat 3: stattküche (3940 in chips)
Seat 4: Jacket68 (2545 in chips)
Seat 5: Urriði (2595 in chips)
Seat 6: jcpoker77 (11230 in chips)
Seat 7: gloryimin2 (4205 in chips)
Seat 9: ryan1111 (1405 in chips)
Catchup666: posts the ante 25
dada2333: posts the ante 25
stattküche: posts the ante 25
Jacket68: posts the ante 25
Urriði: posts the ante 25
jcpoker77: posts the ante 25
gloryimin2: posts the ante 25
ryan1111: posts the ante 25
dada2333: posts small blind 125
stattküche: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [7h 6c]
Jacket68: folds
Urriði: folds
jcpoker77: folds
gloryimin2: folds
ryan1111:??

#4

PokerStars Hand #96360481457: Tournament #711493408, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2013/03/29 19:38:11 ET
Table '711493408 13' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: RightByMe (6480 in chips)
Seat 3: kappa168 (5826 in chips)
Seat 4: alinandra (10372 in chips)
Seat 5: Urriði (9790 in chips)
Seat 7: gloryimin2 (9722 in chips)
Seat 8: pool955 (4706 in chips)
Seat 9: ryan1111 (11820 in chips)
RightByMe: posts the ante 50
kappa168: posts the ante 50
alinandra: posts the ante 50
Urriði: posts the ante 50
gloryimin2: posts the ante 50
pool955: posts the ante 50
ryan1111: posts the ante 50
Urriði: posts small blind 300
gloryimin2: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [7d 7s]
pool955: folds
ryan1111: raises 600 to 1200
RightByMe: folds
kappa168: raises 4576 to 5776 and is all-in
alinandra: folds
Urriði: folds
gloryimin2: folds
ryan1111:??

#5 uber nitty opponent
PokerStars Hand #96362497591: Tournament #711512103, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/03/29 20:26:11 ET
Table '711512103 10' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ryan1111 (11164 in chips)
Seat 2: 470398990 (5203 in chips)
Seat 3: Chocolate007 (5038 in chips)
Seat 4: guim26 (11826 in chips)
Seat 5: Marcelbe (4419 in chips)
Seat 6: GRPPA (21542 in chips)
Seat 7: poKerHouch (7958 in chips)
Seat 8: Lapka77 (9170 in chips)
Seat 9: arthurgs501 (1580 in chips) is sitting out
ryan1111: posts the ante 100
470398990: posts the ante 100
Chocolate007: posts the ante 100
guim26: posts the ante 100
Marcelbe: posts the ante 100
GRPPA: posts the ante 100
poKerHouch: posts the ante 100
Lapka77: posts the ante 100
arthurgs501: posts the ante 100
ryan1111: posts small blind 500
470398990: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [Js 7s]
Chocolate007: folds
guim26: folds
Marcelbe: folds
GRPPA: folds
poKerHouch: folds
Lapka77: folds
arthurgs501: folds
ryan1111:??

#6

PokerStars Hand #96364508908: Tournament #711540421, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2013/03/29 21:22:17 ET
Table '711540421 13' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: ryan1111 (4595 in chips)
Seat 2: hugogmr (646 in chips)
Seat 3: axero (3355 in chips)
Seat 4: Carnagecraze (2891 in chips)
Seat 5: Dogge456 (1940 in chips)
Seat 6: ejdias (1595 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: aiTvaras 7 (2947 in chips)
Seat 8: stralucescu (10115 in chips)
Seat 9: casdamrat31 (3010 in chips)
ryan1111: posts the ante 50
hugogmr: posts the ante 50
axero: posts the ante 50
Carnagecraze: posts the ante 50
Dogge456: posts the ante 50
ejdias: posts the ante 50
aiTvaras 7: posts the ante 50
stralucescu: posts the ante 50
casdamrat31: posts the ante 50
casdamrat31: posts small blind 200
ryan1111: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [5s Ad]
hugogmr: raises 196 to 596 and is all-in
ejdias has returned
axero: folds
Carnagecraze: folds
Dogge456: raises 1294 to 1890 and is all-in
ejdias: folds
aiTvaras 7: folds
stralucescu: folds
casdamrat31: folds
ryan1111:??

#7 final table uber nitty
PokerStars Hand #96365969933: Tournament #711540421, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (1500/3000) - 2013/03/29 22:10:43 ET
Table '711540421 20' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: sKm82 (28854 in chips)
Seat 2: ryan1111 (11682 in chips)
Seat 4: Shaun Sabean (27540 in chips)
Seat 5: Patrick12068 (16300 in chips)
Seat 6: Rui M.B.S.82 (19506 in chips)
Seat 8: Mates86 (51226 in chips)
Seat 9: Bendte32 (114892 in chips)
sKm82: posts the ante 300
ryan1111: posts the ante 300
Shaun Sabean: posts the ante 300
Patrick12068: posts the ante 300
Rui M.B.S.82: posts the ante 300
Mates86: posts the ante 300
Bendte32: posts the ante 300
Shaun Sabean: posts small blind 1500
Patrick12068: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [5h 8h]
Rui M.B.S.82: folds
Mates86: folds
Bendte32: folds
sKm82: folds
ryan1111:


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Re: A FEW HANDS FROM TONIGHT

Post  Smoker.B. on Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:13 pm

call

call

shove

call

shove

call

shove

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Post  JodaB. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:35 am

Smoker.B. wrote:call

call

shove

call

shove

call

shove

cheers
here is the thing, anytime we guess on something we cannot possible be making a plus ev play. Its something you might not believe but sadly its true. So often throughout the day a hand will come up where I don't know. I have to guess so I know its not +ev.

Here we can use nash so we don't have to guess. So its fun to guess to see how we do, but then we get sad when we are wrong and we try to defend our position instead of learning the correct plays.


Nonetheless I can talk about each hand but really, we need to look at the hand in nash and adjust the villains ranges to see what hands we should call with....

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Post  JodaB. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:36 am

so you can highlight the hand history text from the file, and paste from clipboard in the nash calculator with either a new min raise/fold hand or a shove hand.

make sure the payout is 1 for anytime before the money.

Also i forgot about the new payout structure, so its a little different than the tourney we'll get into it. I haven't fully adjusted my play to it and ill talk about that too.
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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:01 am

KK, thanks for the second post

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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:21 pm

Just went trough these hands with HR, here are my results... smokerb you're going to go crazy...
*= made the same play in the game
*1.Fold (66+, AJs+,AJ+ to call)
*2.Fold (88+,AJs+,AQo+ to call) <- not on the bubble like I had said
3.Fold (very close to a shove -.29 tho)
4.Call (No adjustments)
*5.Shove (I made the effective stack mistake)
*6.Call (No adjustments needed, could of called even wider)
*7.Shove ATC (thought ICM would affect the shove, but it didnt)

Think I might make this into a game for myself... everytime I play take min 10 hands, compare my play vs HR results

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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:24 pm

hey smokerb. it appears you're callin to light.

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Post  Smoker.B. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:34 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:hey smokerb. it appears you're callin to light.

no such thing cheers

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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:53 pm

Smoker.B. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:hey smokerb. it appears you're callin to light.

no such thing cheers

explain cheers

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Post  Smoker.B. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:38 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:
Smoker.B. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:hey smokerb. it appears you're callin to light.

no such thing cheers

explain cheers

not allowed... joda will get mad at me Mad

i really think its great that you are putting in the time and effort to improve ur game sir, its obvious how much work u are putting into your game

keep it up!

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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:35 pm

I think he would be happy to hear your thoughts!


ty! The reason I'm working so hard is because I no longer want to build CRV's No

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Post  sngking on Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:49 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:I think he would be happy to hear your thoughts!


ty! The reason I'm working so hard is because I no longer want to build CRV's No


LOL, Please tell me you're not thinking of quitting at Honda? to play poker Shocked

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Re: A FEW HANDS FROM TONIGHT

Post  JodaB. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:50 pm

Smoker.B. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:hey smokerb. it appears you're callin to light.

no such thing cheers

Are you really spending your time breaking into strategy threads to say things like 'no such thing as calling light?'
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Post  sngking on Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:51 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:Just went trough these hands with HR, here are my results... smokerb you're going to go crazy...
*= made the same play in the game
*1.Fold (66+, AJs+,AJ+ to call)
*2.Fold (88+,AJs+,AQo+ to call) <- not on the bubble like I had said
3.Fold (very close to a shove -.29 tho)
4.Call (No adjustments)
*5.Shove (I made the effective stack mistake)
*6.Call (No adjustments needed, could of called even wider)
*7.Shove ATC (thought ICM would affect the shove, but it didnt)

Think I might make this into a game for myself... everytime I play take min 10 hands, compare my play vs HR results



6 is a call REALLY? I thought it would have been like a9 for a call. Shocked Suspect

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Post  JodaB. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:55 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:Just went trough these hands with HR, here are my results... smokerb you're going to go crazy...
*= made the same play in the game
*1.Fold (66+, AJs+,AJ+ to call)
*2.Fold (88+,AJs+,AQo+ to call) <- not on the bubble like I had said
3.Fold (very close to a shove -.29 tho)
4.Call (No adjustments)
*5.Shove (I made the effective stack mistake)
*6.Call (No adjustments needed, could of called even wider)
*7.Shove ATC (thought ICM would affect the shove, but it didnt)

Think I might make this into a game for myself... everytime I play take min 10 hands, compare my play vs HR results
2 you can call cause people over call so tight.
3 isn't really close .29 isn't really something we want, if you are going to make a mistake make it suited.

good good thought lots of learning going on here no doubt this will bring your play to a new level.
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Post  Smoker.B. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:32 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:I think he would be happy to hear your thoughts!


ty! The reason I'm working so hard is because I no longer want to build CRV's No

my thoughts are simple.

in a turbo donkament where we are never deep and rarely over 20bb , i cant fold pairs

also, anything under 10bb thats folded to me , its getting unexploitably shoved (for the most part)

my theory may be wack but its pretty much what it is, and why i posted shove/call in your OP Laughing

(i dont and wont play turbo's btw.. too high a variance for me personally)

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Post  JodaB. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:41 pm

Smoker.B. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:I think he would be happy to hear your thoughts!


ty! The reason I'm working so hard is because I no longer want to build CRV's No

my thoughts are simple.

in a turbo donkament where we are never deep and rarely over 20bb , i cant fold pairs

also, anything under 10bb thats folded to me , its getting unexploitably shoved (for the most part)

my theory may be wack but its pretty much what it is, and why i posted shove/call in your OP Laughing

(i dont and wont play turbo's btw.. too high a variance for me personally)

We should throw away our theories and do what nash does. And turbos aren't high variance thats a myth.
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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:42 pm

sngking wrote:
LOL, Please tell me you're not thinking of quitting at Honda? to play poker Shocked

Not yet, It's a cash cow my friend! But I hope that in like 3 years I can consider it. That will be my 10th year, so I can collect some of pension later in life!

sngking wrote:
6 is a call REALLY? I thought it would have been like a9 for a call. Shocked Suspect
I wish I was on my other computer to show you, but basically it's because they're so short their ranges open up.

JodaB. wrote:2 you can call cause people over call so tight.
3 isn't really close .29 isn't really something we want, if you are going to make a mistake make it suited.

good good thought lots of learning going on here no doubt this will bring your play to a new level.

ya I looked at tony's chart and saw this 10.1% 44+ A9s+ ATo+

and have taken a note that the .29 is a big mistake!! thx

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Post  JodaB. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:43 pm

sngking wrote:
6 is a call REALLY? I thought it would have been like a9 for a call. Shocked Suspect
Hes getting redic odds I wouldnt' worry about it a9 is fine thats not a real leak for you.

We can likely call any pair any ace bw and a shit ton of suited hands,
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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:51 pm

Smoker.B. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:I think he would be happy to hear your thoughts!


ty! The reason I'm working so hard is because I no longer want to build CRV's No

my thoughts are simple.

in a turbo donkament where we are never deep and rarely over 20bb , i cant fold pairs

also, anything under 10bb thats folded to me , its getting unexploitably shoved (for the most part)

my theory may be wack but its pretty much what it is, and why i posted shove/call in your OP Laughing

(i dont and wont play turbo's btw.. too high a variance for me personally)


Is it variance or is it your play? I couldn't cash in these for the life of me before i started this endeavour with nash, now I'm cashing, even FTing and that's only with the base shove charts. I can only imagine for now what my profits are going to look like once I loosen my shipping ranges, figure out my calling ranges and reshipping ranges.

Don't hate the turbo's, try to understand them!

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Post  Smoker.B. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:25 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:
Smoker.B. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:I think he would be happy to hear your thoughts!


ty! The reason I'm working so hard is because I no longer want to build CRV's No

my thoughts are simple.

in a turbo donkament where we are never deep and rarely over 20bb , i cant fold pairs

also, anything under 10bb thats folded to me , its getting unexploitably shoved (for the most part)

my theory may be wack but its pretty much what it is, and why i posted shove/call in your OP Laughing

(i dont and wont play turbo's btw.. too high a variance for me personally)


Is it variance or is it your play? I couldn't cash in these for the life of me before i started this endeavour with nash, now I'm cashing, even FTing and that's only with the base shove charts. I can only imagine for now what my profits are going to look like once I loosen my shipping ranges, figure out my calling ranges and reshipping ranges.

Don't hate the turbo's, try to understand them!

I dont hate! Just minimal edges to be had . I just prefer deeper structures.

ooooooo this is the fun part for u.. finally figuring out how to loosen up Very Happy

dont get too carried away lol, its fun as hell to shove Q6s on nits who call u with with 6bb with AK and they cant figure out why they are losing at this game Razz

i used to shove too wide.. i remember shipping 72s and stuff lol .. u got joda B ur in good hands.. Twisted Evil
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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:48 pm

That's cool!! I don't think it's the deeper stacks, I think it's the prestige of it all. It's seems that everyone thinks there's none of that in 180's.

would you say I'm crazy if I said that regs are using these to reduce variance<-- yup i said it

oh BTW



















afro Razz


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Post  Smoker.B. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:08 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:That's cool!! I don't think it's the deeper stacks, I think it's the prestige of it all. It's seems that everyone thinks there's none of that in 180's.

would you say I'm crazy if I said that regs are using these to reduce variance<-- yup i said it

oh BTW



















afro Razz


lol now u sound like me aka "H"

it reduces variance in the sense that as a "winning player" the more you play or more games that run, in theory over the long run, will be the more money that you make. its not the tournament itself that reduces variance


oh and

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Re: A FEW HANDS FROM TONIGHT

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:12 pm

Here's the SICK part, I just figured you out... you're finally explaining your answers lol Basketball

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Post  Smoker.B. on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:17 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:Here's the SICK part, I just figured you out... you're finally explaining your answers lol Basketball

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