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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:00 pm

Here you go SNGKing, this is my basic breakdown of Implied odds. I have a question about it to, so I thought I would create this thread. Joda If I have anything wrong pls correct me.

What is Implied Odds: Implied odds are what you figure to make from your opponent(s) on future betting rounds.

When do we use Implied Odds: When we're Deepstacked we can look at playing the Implied odds game. Forget about it when you're short stacked.

Implied Odds rule: I have read a couple articles on this and they say if you want to call with implied odds, both your opponent(s) and your stack must have 15X amt behind.

How do we use Implied Odds: So lets say we're in MP with 66, blinds are 50/100. EP raises 200(2x), for you to call with implied odds the EFFECTIVE STACK must be 3K.

Bet size - Effective stack required

2x - 30bb
3x - 45bb
4x - 60bb

I hope this helps. there is more to it for post flop, but I haven't looked into it, I primary focus for now is preflop.

Now for my question... Joda I know that you use another multiplier for this, why? (I didn't want to include it here because u may have changed over the years.)



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Post  JodaB. on Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:18 pm

no i didn't have a multiplier, only for sets, which is a really not accurate. Another type of implied odds I think would be if you know villain will bet on the next street. Depending on the size of their bet and our hand equity, we can sometimes call, or bet knowing we have implied odds if we hit.

So things can happen when we are short too, they are just more specific spots.

For many draws when need to expect to get paid off in order to pay to see another card.

This is obv easiest against Loose aggressive players and specifically players that will represent the draw that hit.

Or if villain is a call station we can check call and bet big when we hit and get paid big enough to make our call +ev, even though it was -ev at the time.
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Post  JodaB. on Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:34 pm

How about this, betting the turn when we know our opponents will fold to certain river cards..

No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by http://weaktight.com/
$3.19+$0.31

Stacks:
UTG 11,784 39bb
UTG+1 11,305 38bb
MP1 6,525 22bb
MP2 5,230 17bb
Hero (MP3) 9,940 33bb
CO 4,345 14bb
BTN 6,100 20bb
SB 8,575 29bb
BB 6,150 21bb

Blinds: 150/300 Ante 25

Pre-Flop: (675, 9 players) Hero is MP3 3h As
4 folds, Hero raises to 600, 3 folds, BB calls 300

Flop: 6d 4s 6s (1,575, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 750, BB calls 750

Turn: 2s (3,075, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 1,200, BB calls 1,200

River: Jh (5,475, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero goes all-in 7,365, BB folds

Final Pot: 5,475

Hero wins 12,840 (net +2,900)

BB lost 2,575
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Post  sngking on Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:29 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:Here you go SNGKing, this is my basic breakdown of Implied odds. I have a question about it to, so I thought I would create this thread. Joda If I have anything wrong pls correct me.

What is Implied Odds: Implied odds are what you figure to make from your opponent(s) on future betting rounds.

When do we use Implied Odds: When we're Deepstacked we can look at playing the Implied odds game. Forget about it when you're short stacked.

Implied Odds rule: I have read a couple articles on this and they say if you want to call with implied odds, both your opponent(s) and your stack must have 15X amt behind.

How do we use Implied Odds: So lets say we're in MP with 66, blinds are 50/100. EP raises 200(2x), for you to call with implied odds the EFFECTIVE STACK must be 3K.

Bet size - Effective stack required

2x - 30bb
3x - 45bb
4x - 60bb

I hope this helps. there is more to it for post flop, but I haven't looked into it, I primary focus for now is preflop.

Now for my question... Joda I know that you use another multiplier for this, why? (I didn't want to include it here because u may have changed over the years.)



Thanks! The 1st two I knew, after that there was some good info. Very Happy

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