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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:57 pm

I WILL NEVER DO THIS AGAIN, I REALLY WANTED A FLOP EXAMPLE
PokerStars Hand #103850799940: Tournament #785479118, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2013/09/08 15:50:09 ET
Table '785479118 5' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Jozmes (3305 in chips)
Seat 2: Neuqqu (1405 in chips)
Seat 3: GGMBN (3140 in chips)
Seat 4: JackTrefl (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Ricardo Fogo (1475 in chips)
Seat 7: ryan1111 (3150 in chips)
Seat 8: zygi sygnau (1380 in chips)
Seat 9: Axxxidental (1535 in chips)
Axxxidental: posts small blind 50
Jozmes: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [Td Th]
Neuqqu: folds
GGMBN: raises 100 to 200
JackTrefl: folds
Ricardo Fogo: folds
ryan1111: calls 200
zygi sygnau: folds
Axxxidental: folds
Jozmes: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs 7c 6d]
GGMBN: bets 300
ryan1111: raises 450 to 750
GGMBN: raises 2190 to 2940 and is all-in
ryan1111: calls 2190
*** TURN *** [Qs 7c 6d] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 7c 6d 3d] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GGMBN: shows [Ac Ad] (a pair of Aces)
ryan1111: shows [Td Th] (a pair of Tens)
GGMBN collected 6430 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6430 | Rake 0
Board [Qs 7c 6d 3d 8d]
Seat 1: Jozmes (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Neuqqu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GGMBN showed [Ac Ad] and won (6430) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: JackTrefl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Ricardo Fogo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ryan1111 showed [Td Th] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 8: zygi sygnau (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Axxxidental (small blind) folded before Flop

what notes would you make for this hand? and do you think we can make a note about how we played against him since hes a reg?

WHAT NOTES WOULD U MAKE

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Re: Notes..........

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:00 pm

JodaB. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:
JodaB. wrote:
ok then we see this, how does this affect our note?
ep/mp 4bbs o/l a8o

or whatever it is

no reason to note the flop since its std. that he stacked tp.

seems they are limping everything if same opponent.

clearly we can assume they have no idea about shove poker.
and if know that he knows nothing about SS poker how do we exploit that?

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Re: Notes..........

Post  JodaB. on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:03 pm

Its great that you are asking these questions, it helps you, so don't feel I'm shooting down that.

As for this hand, villain min AA 20isbbs ep no antes.

But postflop is std. no reads.

We aren't trying to decipher there game, you don't want to read past the note, just note something thats out of line from how you perceive a std. reg (you).

Its not "this guy is bluffy" "This guy cbets a lot" "reg that likes to get tricky"

RAther:

3x AA pre,

Bluffed river with missed flush draw.

Check call flop air.


Just simply the unexpected things you see
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Re: Notes..........

Post  JodaB. on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:05 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:
and if know that he knows nothing about SS poker how do we exploit that?[/quote]We can't possibly expect him to shove light.
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Re: Notes..........

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:11 pm

JodaB. wrote:Its great that you are asking these questions, it helps you, so don't feel I'm shooting down that.

As for this hand, villain min AA 20isbbs ep no antes.

But postflop is std. no reads.

We aren't trying to decipher there game, you don't want to read past the note, just note something thats out of line from how you perceive a std. reg (you).

Its not "this guy is bluffy"  "This guy cbets a lot"  "reg that likes to get tricky"

RAther:

3x AA pre,

Bluffed river with missed flush draw.

Check call flop air.


Just simply the unexpected things you see
no probs

but in this hand his bet is seems big to me so wouldnt we want to note his sizing on the flop


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Re: Notes..........

Post  JodaB. on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:34 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:

but in this hand his bet is seems big to me so wouldnt we want to note his sizing on the flop

sure. then we can put the cbet/pot into our notes...such as 2/3 or 1/2
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Re: Notes..........

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:10 pm

PokerStars Hand #103854944194: Tournament #785480468, $7.34+$0.66 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2013/09/08 17:05:14 ET
Table '785480468 8' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: MatteoBounce (28894 in chips)
Seat 3: Garode (15620 in chips)
Seat 4: UncleRockTom (36225 in chips)
Seat 5: forboon (37295 in chips)
Seat 6: Max666917 (27677 in chips)
Seat 8: denkiboyz (12536 in chips)
Seat 9: vasily_i (19042 in chips)
MatteoBounce: posts the ante 200
Garode: posts the ante 200
UncleRockTom: posts the ante 200
forboon: posts the ante 200
Max666917: posts the ante 200
denkiboyz: posts the ante 200
vasily_i: posts the ante 200
Garode: posts small blind 1000
UncleRockTom: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
forboon: folds
Max666917: folds
denkiboyz: raises 10336 to 12336 and is all-in
vasily_i: folds
MatteoBounce: folds
Garode: folds
UncleRockTom: folds
Uncalled bet (10336) returned to denkiboyz
denkiboyz collected 6400 from pot
denkiboyz: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6400 | Rake 0
Seat 2: MatteoBounce (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Garode (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: UncleRockTom (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: forboon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Max666917 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: denkiboyz collected (6400)
Seat 9: vasily_i folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Very Happy what if we observe a hand like this?

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Re: Notes..........

Post  JodaB. on Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:19 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:PokerStars Hand #103854944194: Tournament #785480468, $7.34+$0.66 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2013/09/08 17:05:14 ET
Table '785480468 8' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: MatteoBounce (28894 in chips)
Seat 3: Garode (15620 in chips)
Seat 4: UncleRockTom (36225 in chips)
Seat 5: forboon (37295 in chips)
Seat 6: Max666917 (27677 in chips)
Seat 8: denkiboyz (12536 in chips)
Seat 9: vasily_i (19042 in chips)
MatteoBounce: posts the ante 200
Garode: posts the ante 200
UncleRockTom: posts the ante 200
forboon: posts the ante 200
Max666917: posts the ante 200
denkiboyz: posts the ante 200
vasily_i: posts the ante 200
Garode: posts small blind 1000
UncleRockTom: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
forboon: folds
Max666917: folds
denkiboyz: raises 10336 to 12336 and is all-in
vasily_i: folds
MatteoBounce: folds
Garode: folds
UncleRockTom: folds
Uncalled bet (10336) returned to denkiboyz
denkiboyz collected 6400 from pot
denkiboyz: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6400 | Rake 0
Seat 2: MatteoBounce (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Garode (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: UncleRockTom (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: forboon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Max666917 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: denkiboyz collected (6400)
Seat 9: vasily_i folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Very Happy what if we observe a hand like this?
is this the hand you meant to post?
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Re: Notes..........

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:21 pm

lol! YUP
I can delete it and forget about it if you want

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Re: Notes..........

Post  JodaB. on Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:32 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:lol! YUP
I can delete it and forget about it if you want
I don't understand the relevance or joke...you want me to comment on a 5bbs shove from mp that didn't sd?
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Re: Notes..........

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:47 pm

I was thinking to a have fun a bit and see what you would write about yourself.

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Re: Notes..........

Post  JodaB. on Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:58 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:I was thinking to a have fun a bit and see what you would write about yourself.
folded?Laughing 
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Re: Notes..........

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:18 pm

paid of nicely
have a note that this guy has been 3x ing good hands (x3)

PokerStars Hand #103858347115: Tournament #785525679, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2013/09/08 18:13:28 ET
Table '785525679 6' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ryan1111 (8955 in chips)
Seat 3: ariccel (2669 in chips)
Seat 4: Colipe (5350 in chips)
Seat 5: dreamkileris (6538 in chips)
Seat 6: Tehran_Power (4352 in chips)
Seat 7: eladbar66 (9636 in chips)
Seat 8: ericss1 (997 in chips)
Seat 9: POKKERFAKE (27536 in chips)
ryan1111: posts the ante 75
ariccel: posts the ante 75
Colipe: posts the ante 75
dreamkileris: posts the ante 75
Tehran_Power: posts the ante 75
eladbar66: posts the ante 75
ericss1: posts the ante 75
POKKERFAKE: posts the ante 75
ariccel: posts small blind 400
Colipe: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [6c 6s]
dreamkileris: folds
Tehran_Power: folds
eladbar66: folds
ericss1: folds
POKKERFAKE: raises 800 to 1600
ryan1111: raises 7280 to 8880 and is all-in
ariccel: folds
Colipe: folds
POKKERFAKE: folds
Uncalled bet (7280) returned to ryan1111
ryan1111 collected 5000 from pot
ryan1111: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5000 | Rake 0
Seat 1: ryan1111 (button) collected (5000)
Seat 3: ariccel (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Colipe (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: dreamkileris folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Tehran_Power folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: eladbar66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ericss1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: POKKERFAKE folded before Flop

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Re: Notes..........

Post  JodaB. on Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:18 pm

there you go +ev note for sure!
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Re: Notes..........

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:16 pm

PokerStars Hand #103862737137: Tournament #785585605, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2013/09/08 20:12:47 ET
Table '785585605 5' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: biursf23 (1455 in chips)
Seat 2: mazipoli (1580 in chips)
Seat 3: Markus954 (1580 in chips)
Seat 4: mameloukos12 (3433 in chips)
Seat 5: milaneto135 (2264 in chips)
Seat 6: UGOTNUN (2140 in chips)
Seat 7: srostix (1415 in chips)
Seat 8: ryan1111 (1420 in chips)
Seat 9: x_pythagoras (2433 in chips)
ryan1111: posts small blind 50
x_pythagoras: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [9c 9h]
biursf23: folds
mazipoli: raises 100 to 200
Markus954: folds
mameloukos12: calls 200
milaneto135: folds
UGOTNUN: folds
srostix: folds
ryan1111: raises 1220 to 1420 and is all-in
x_pythagoras: folds
mazipoli: folds
mameloukos12: calls 1220
*** FLOP *** [6c Js 9d]
*** TURN *** [6c Js 9d] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [6c Js 9d 8d] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ryan1111: shows [9c 9h] (a full house, Nines full of Jacks)
mameloukos12: shows [7c 7d] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
ryan1111 collected 3140 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3140 | Rake 0
Board [6c Js 9d 8d Jc]
Seat 1: biursf23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mazipoli folded before Flop
Seat 3: Markus954 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mameloukos12 showed [7c 7d] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 5: milaneto135 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: UGOTNUN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: srostix (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ryan1111 (small blind) showed [9c 9h] and won (3140) with a full house, Nines full of Jacks
Seat 9: x_pythagoras (big blind) folded before Flop

I have my note, want to compare it with yours



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Re: Notes..........

Post  JodaB. on Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:40 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:PokerStars Hand #103862737137: Tournament #785585605, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2013/09/08 20:12:47 ET
Table '785585605 5' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: biursf23 (1455 in chips)
Seat 2: mazipoli (1580 in chips)
Seat 3: Markus954 (1580 in chips)
Seat 4: mameloukos12 (3433 in chips)
Seat 5: milaneto135 (2264 in chips)
Seat 6: UGOTNUN (2140 in chips)
Seat 7: srostix (1415 in chips)
Seat 8: ryan1111 (1420 in chips)
Seat 9: x_pythagoras (2433 in chips)
ryan1111: posts small blind 50
x_pythagoras: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [9c 9h]
biursf23: folds
mazipoli: raises 100 to 200
Markus954: folds
mameloukos12: calls 200
milaneto135: folds
UGOTNUN: folds
srostix: folds
ryan1111: raises 1220 to 1420 and is all-in
x_pythagoras: folds
mazipoli: folds
mameloukos12: calls 1220
*** FLOP *** [6c Js 9d]
*** TURN *** [6c Js 9d] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [6c Js 9d 8d] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ryan1111: shows [9c 9h] (a full house, Nines full of Jacks)
mameloukos12: shows [7c 7d] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
ryan1111 collected 3140 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3140 | Rake 0
Board [6c Js 9d 8d Jc]
Seat 1: biursf23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mazipoli folded before Flop
Seat 3: Markus954 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mameloukos12 showed [7c 7d] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 5: milaneto135 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: UGOTNUN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: srostix (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ryan1111 (small blind) showed [9c 9h] and won (3140) with a full house, Nines full of Jacks
Seat 9: x_pythagoras (big blind) folded before Flop

I have my note, want to compare it with yours


ha you'll get bored of it soon once you see we're just writing what we see.

MP flat vs ep min open/call my sb sq shove 12bbs eff him 24ish 77 no antes
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Re: Notes..........

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:53 pm

lol eventually

this was my note not as in depth as yours

called 13bb ai sqz 77 Pre ante

u honestly write all that?

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Re: Notes..........

Post  JodaB. on Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:06 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:lol eventually

this was my note not as in depth as yours

called 13bb ai sqz 77 Pre ante

u honestly write all that?
ya that was a complex one though, but its nice to know they likely flat/call most pairs.
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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:18 pm

PokerStars Hand #103863899895: Tournament #785585605, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/09/08 20:53:03 ET
Table '785585605 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: psicarvalho (2910 in chips)
Seat 2: XelmoZone (6364 in chips)
Seat 4: pulgonize (17356 in chips)
Seat 6: ryan1111 (4854 in chips)
Seat 7: Guran1967 (8708 in chips)
Seat 8: artemkerch (2619 in chips)
Seat 9: VirTyche (4525 in chips)
psicarvalho: posts the ante 100
XelmoZone: posts the ante 100
pulgonize: posts the ante 100
ryan1111: posts the ante 100
Guran1967: posts the ante 100
artemkerch: posts the ante 100
VirTyche: posts the ante 100
artemkerch: posts small blind 500
VirTyche: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [Th Qh]
psicarvalho: folds
XelmoZone: folds
pulgonize: folds
ryan1111: raises 3754 to 4754 and is all-in
Guran1967: folds
artemkerch: folds
VirTyche: folds
Uncalled bet (3754) returned to ryan1111
ryan1111 collected 3200 from pot
ryan1111: doesn't show hand

even tho i didnt see either of the blinds hands, i still made a note the they folded here on the bubble... you think this is +ev? i do

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Post  JodaB. on Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:34 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:PokerStars Hand #103863899895: Tournament #785585605, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/09/08 20:53:03 ET
Table '785585605 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: psicarvalho (2910 in chips)
Seat 2: XelmoZone (6364 in chips)
Seat 4: pulgonize (17356 in chips)
Seat 6: ryan1111 (4854 in chips)
Seat 7: Guran1967 (8708 in chips)
Seat 8: artemkerch (2619 in chips)
Seat 9: VirTyche (4525 in chips)
psicarvalho: posts the ante 100
XelmoZone: posts the ante 100
pulgonize: posts the ante 100
ryan1111: posts the ante 100
Guran1967: posts the ante 100
artemkerch: posts the ante 100
VirTyche: posts the ante 100
artemkerch: posts small blind 500
VirTyche: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [Th Qh]
psicarvalho: folds
XelmoZone: folds
pulgonize: folds
ryan1111: raises 3754 to 4754 and is all-in
Guran1967: folds
artemkerch: folds
VirTyche: folds
Uncalled bet (3754) returned to ryan1111
ryan1111 collected 3200 from pot
ryan1111: doesn't show hand

even tho i didnt see either of the blinds hands, i still made a note the they folded here on the bubble... you think this is +ev? i do
+ev for you for sure. As for your note, what if they both had 72o?
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Re: Notes..........

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:57 pm

Dunno?

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Post  JodaB. on Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:00 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:Dunno?
not a reliable note then I would think Wink
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Re: Notes..........

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:04 pm

I was thinking they should get it with ATC at the time.

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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:06 pm

So that tells me these players only play a tight range near the money, so I can steal more during this time in this spot. +ev

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Re: Notes..........

Post  JodaB. on Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:12 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:I was thinking they should get it with ATC at the time.
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:So that tells me these players only play a tight range near the money, so I can steal more during this time in this spot. +ev
on the bubble it might not be atc.

I don't think it tells us anything other than that they at least fold 72o
DUCY?
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