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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:51 pm


PokerStars Hand #105504994474: Tournament #802318404, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2013/10/14 16:44:59 ET
Table '802318404 18' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: chillipops (4003 in chips)
Seat 2: HoSoKaDo (1290 in chips)
Seat 3: vidos46 (1200 in chips)
Seat 4: Rudi344 (6505 in chips)
Seat 5: iG0R_123 (1642 in chips)
Seat 6: ryan1111 (2990 in chips)
Seat 7: rompa63 (1310 in chips)
Seat 8: phil411 (2685 in chips)
Seat 9: 7venomspawn7 (600 in chips) is sitting out
ryan1111: posts small blind 100
rompa63: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [9d 9c]
phil411: folds
7venomspawn7: folds
chillipops: folds
HoSoKaDo: raises 1090 to 1290 and is all-in
vidos46: folds
Rudi344: calls 1290
iG0R_123: folds
ryan1111: raises 1700 to 2990 and is all-in
rompa63: folds
Rudi344: folds
Uncalled bet (1700) returned to ryan1111
*** FLOP *** [2d Js 9s]
*** TURN *** [2d Js 9s] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [2d Js 9s Qd] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ryan1111: shows [9d 9c] (three of a kind, Nines)
HoSoKaDo: shows [3c 3d] (a pair of Threes)
ryan1111 collected 4070 from pot
HoSoKaDo finished the tournament in 90th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4070 | Rake 0
Board [2d Js 9s Qd Tc]
Seat 1: chillipops folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: HoSoKaDo showed [3c 3d] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 3: vidos46 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Rudi344 folded before Flop
Seat 5: iG0R_123 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ryan1111 (small blind) showed [9d 9c] and won (4070) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 7: rompa63 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: phil411 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: 7venomspawn7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

pretty sure im ok to do this all the time, if the caller calls me im prob flipping and if he folds he leaves equity in the pot

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Re: 99 sqz thoughts

Post  JodaB. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:13 pm

with no antes this isn't an ideal spot, with antes it is.
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Re: 99 sqz thoughts

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:20 pm

it seems this type of shit is why im losing lately :< im going try tightening up my ranges up a tiny  bit when ppl have acted before me. i will look at the math a little later.

really frustrated lately since i havent been playing alot and working on this icm stuff, it seems like im doing everything wrong again!!! i hate the balancing side of thing!! but it has to be done!!

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Post  JodaB. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:44 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:it seems this type of shit is why im losing lately :< im going try tightening up my ranges up a tiny  bit when ppl have acted before me. i will look at the math a little later.

really frustrated lately since i havent been playing alot and working on this icm stuff, it seems like im doing everything wrong again!!! i hate the balancing side of thing!! but it has to be done!!
sample size? Rolling Eyes 

I play 200 or so games a day maybe 150 and put multiple down days in at a time Wink
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Re: 99 sqz thoughts

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:17 pm

u wont recognize numbers this small:D 

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Re: 99 sqz thoughts

Post  JodaB. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:20 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:u wont recognize numbers this small:D 
nor should you Wink

trust me, you're getting good, and you're gonna get good.
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Re: 99 sqz thoughts

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:34 pm

thx for the encouragement still getting used to all of this

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Post  JodaB. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:37 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:still getting used to all of this
yes much of your poker time will be spent release old thoughts that are just bad habits. You are going to lose pots, have bad beats, lose heads up with a 12 to 1 chip lead, have bluffs snapped with 5th pair, lose giant pots vs fish late game etc. It shouldn't mean anything to you because your profits are made off the tables when you learn. Just tell yourself that thinking is wrong and losing in these spots are what ever winner has to go through.
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Re: 99 sqz thoughts

Post  Smoker.B. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:10 pm

i think 99 is a fine spot here Shocked 
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Post  JodaB. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:55 pm

Smoker.B. wrote:i think 99 is a fine spot here Shocked 
thats fine, it prob means you are too loose though. You might look at it and judge for yourself, but the more correct way would be to look at it in nash, and I think you'll find its prob -ev.
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Re: 99 sqz thoughts

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:12 pm

looking at the numbers here, it seems i might be good here. i needed 29% to call and  with the ranges i put into stove get about 36%  so shouldn't i shove?

AI 22+,A2s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A8o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo, call 55+,ATs+,KQs,AJo+,KQo vs 99

nash had me shoving here without adjustments and even with some changes it still does, but thats prob cause i put the calling villains 3bet call range to tight



is it because he shouldn't be folding any of his range and its to much of a gamble?

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Post  JodaB. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:17 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:looking at the numbers here, it seems i might be good here. i needed 29% to call and  with the ranges i put into stove get about 36%  so shouldn't i shove?

AI 22+,A2s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A8o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo, call 55+,ATs+,KQs,AJo+,KQo vs 99

nash had me shoving here  without adjustments and even with some changes it still does, but thats prob cause i put the calling villains 3bet call range to tight



is it because he shouldn't be folding any of his range and its to much of a gamble?
no there is another player in the hand tho
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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:23 pm

ok the bb, but dont you think they'll playing super tight with everything that has transpired in front of them?

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Re: 99 sqz thoughts

Post  Smoker.B. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:27 pm

the player that failed to iso is either really weak or really strong

and obv in this case was really weak (because he folded) so I think this was a great play with 99

im not even being results oriented i swear! Razz 

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Post  JodaB. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:44 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:ok the bb, but dont you think they'll playing super tight with everything that has transpired in front of them?
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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:45 pm

Ya that's true, that means my range is off for the villain calling I can prob shave off the top 2.6% of hands.. Even bad players know that AA don't fair well against multiple hands.

Tbh in game I didn't have him on a big hand at all.. That range is a product of HR

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Post  JodaB. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:45 pm

Smoker.B. wrote:the player that failed to iso is either really weak or really strong
well he can be medium too, so really what it means is a wide range on average.
the rest we can't know because its not info we have at the bat time.

and obv in this case was really weak (because he folded) so I think this was a great play with 99

im not even being results oriented i swear! Razz 
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Post  JodaB. on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:46 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:Ya that's true, that means my range is off for the villain calling I can prob shave off the top 2.6% of hands.. Even bad players know that AA don't fair well against multiple hands.

Tbh in game I didn't have him on a big hand at all.. That range is a product of HR
no i don't think you can suggest that they always raise with AA but are confident to play a weaker hand in this way.
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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:47 pm

Ohhhh ya I knew that the 55+ range was his calling range

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Post  Smoker.B. on Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:29 pm

what is "bat" time? Suspect 

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Post  JodaB. on Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:31 pm

Smoker.B. wrote:what is "bat" time? Suspect 

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we just didn't know then what we know now Smile
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Re: 99 sqz thoughts

Post  sngking on Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:38 pm


HAHA I was going to ask that, but I like "bat" time.Very Happy 



Smoker.B. wrote:what is "bat" time? Suspect 

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Post  Smoker.B. on Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:50 pm

JodaB. wrote:
Smoker.B. wrote:the player that failed to iso is either really weak or really strong
well he can be medium too, so really what it means is a wide range on average.
the rest we can't know because its not info we have at the bat time.

and obv in this case was really weak (because he folded) so I think this was a great play with 99

im not even being results oriented i swear! Razz 
sorry missed this before

what the fuck is a medium hand?

AJo-A9s , KTs + etc?
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Post  JodaB. on Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:56 pm

Smoker.B. wrote:
sorry missed this before

what the fuck is a medium hand?

AJo-A9s , KTs + etc?[/quote]yup
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