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click it back river

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:38 am

PokerStars Hand #106587792338: Tournament #811032116, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (125/250) - 2013/11/06 4:31:59 ET
Table '811032116 17' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: belru (5275 in chips)
Seat 2: ryan1111 (15720 in chips)
Seat 3: Mr greek 7 (7999 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: ShibuyAta (7394 in chips)
Seat 5: RAMCO55 (26621 in chips)
Seat 6: Aktanikus (6960 in chips)
Seat 7: hotabics (3445 in chips)
Seat 8: just4funin (16397 in chips)
Seat 9: abpoker123 (15205 in chips)
belru: posts the ante 30
ryan1111: posts the ante 30
Mr greek 7: posts the ante 30
ShibuyAta: posts the ante 30
RAMCO55: posts the ante 30
Aktanikus: posts the ante 30
hotabics: posts the ante 30
just4funin: posts the ante 30
abpoker123: posts the ante 30
ShibuyAta: posts small blind 125
RAMCO55: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [9h 7h]
Aktanikus: folds
hotabics: folds
just4funin: folds
abpoker123: folds
belru: folds
ryan1111: raises 250 to 500
Mr greek 7: folds
ShibuyAta: calls 375
RAMCO55: calls 250
*** FLOP *** [As Jh 2h]
ShibuyAta: checks
RAMCO55: checks
ryan1111: bets 625
ShibuyAta: calls 625
RAMCO55: folds
*** TURN *** [As Jh 2h] [9s]
ShibuyAta: checks
ryan1111: checks
*** RIVER *** [As Jh 2h 9s] [9c]
ShibuyAta: bets 1500
ryan1111: raises 1500 to 3000
ShibuyAta: calls 1500
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ryan1111: shows [9h 7h] (three of a kind, Nines)
ShibuyAta: mucks hand
ryan1111 collected 9020 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9020 | Rake 0
Board [As Jh 2h 9s 9c]
Seat 1: belru folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ryan1111 showed [9h 7h] and won (9020) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 3: Mr greek 7 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ShibuyAta (small blind) mucked [Ts Jd]
Seat 5: RAMCO55 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Aktanikus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hotabics folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: just4funin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: abpoker123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

was thinking he didn't have an ace in hand, but he had a bunch of jack hands, so that why i CIB here. kinda curious if i missed some value because his stack is so low

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Re: click it back river

Post  JodaB. on Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:31 pm

Well if he folds to a cib I don't think they are calling bigger really. But you are right to point out you don't really rep a bluff with a cib raise, and really if we want to get paid by a worse hand we have to rep a bluff as best we can.
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Re: click it back river

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:44 pm

What if we bet a odd sized bet like 3156? Do u think we can fool anyone doing something like this? I personally think not, but not 100%.

Hope u don't mind some silly post flop questions, there is going to a few in the next little bit.

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Re: click it back river

Post  JodaB. on Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:34 pm

Its fine to talk about, but we can also think about if we don't feel comfortable jamming the nuts here we might wanna bluff jam our air.

I prefer to play our nuts like the nuts and adjust our bluffs accordingly, we generally should just value bet fish hard and expect ridiculous calls. .

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Re: click it back river

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:08 am

very good, i like that.

I understand jamming to remove the bottom of range, but I dont think we can do it against weaker plrs, im def trying not risk my tournament life on a bluff against someone who cant fold.

I was thinking about this hand at work and was going to ask how we should change what we're doing in the hand vs a good plr, but then I thought to myself its prob never going to pan out like this.


Part 2: some adjustment...

OK lets assume for a second that the SB has made a note that we opened 97s from the co, what type of adjustments should we make?

I'm thinking its all based on what we his calling hand was. If it was something redic then we should tighten up, but in the case we should cont. with no adjustments from since JT should be in his calling range.

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