Bad Hands in the BB
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Bad Hands in the BB
I am wondering how to play a more +EV BB strategy as I don't want to stupidly fold all my blinds, but I also want to avoid losing so many pots when I am in the BB and overplay a hand I would not normally be in with. Looking for general strategy suggestions.
The following 2 scenarios happen to me a lot:
1) button or LP limps, SB completes, I have bad hand check in the BB, I end up hitting something like top pair or a good draw and losing a massive stack to LP who I have very little info on. In the HH this is the big loss at the end with J5.
2) EP minraise, SB calls, I'm in the BB with 2 bad cards. I feel priced in and then I end up hitting and losing to the EP who can have 2 high cards or an over pair. For instance, I have 74o in the BB, EP min raises, SB calls, I'm getting 6 to 1 on a call so I call. Flop comes 7 rag rag, end up losing big to hands like 88+
The following 2 scenarios happen to me a lot:
1) button or LP limps, SB completes, I have bad hand check in the BB, I end up hitting something like top pair or a good draw and losing a massive stack to LP who I have very little info on. In the HH this is the big loss at the end with J5.
2) EP minraise, SB calls, I'm in the BB with 2 bad cards. I feel priced in and then I end up hitting and losing to the EP who can have 2 high cards or an over pair. For instance, I have 74o in the BB, EP min raises, SB calls, I'm getting 6 to 1 on a call so I call. Flop comes 7 rag rag, end up losing big to hands like 88+
negreanu1985- Posts : 9
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Re: Bad Hands in the BB
any way you can get a text version of the hh's? they would be good for discussion, but i wonder if your site does xml only?
JodaB.- Posts : 1327
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Re: Bad Hands in the BB
These few videos will help explain a lot. If you already know this stuff that's kool, we all can use a refresher here and there.
Here is a free equity Calculator you can play around with...
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/poker-tools/equilab-holdem/
Cheers
Here is a free equity Calculator you can play around with...
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/poker-tools/equilab-holdem/
Cheers
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Re: Bad Hands in the BB
negreanu1985 wrote:I am wondering how to play a more +EV BB strategy as I don't want to stupidly fold all my blinds, but I also want to avoid losing so many pots when I am in the BB and overplay a hand I would not normally be in with. Looking for general strategy suggestions.
The following 2 scenarios happen to me a lot:
1) button or LP limps, SB completes, I have bad hand check in the BB, I end up hitting something like top pair or a good draw and losing a massive stack to LP who I have very little info on. In the HH this is the big loss at the end with J5.
2) EP minraise, SB calls, I'm in the BB with 2 bad cards. I feel priced in and then I end up hitting and losing to the EP who can have 2 high cards or an over pair. For instance, I have 74o in the BB, EP min raises, SB calls, I'm getting 6 to 1 on a call so I call. Flop comes 7 rag rag, end up losing big to hands like 88+
That's the thing about flatting from bb. We have the odds as you stated, that's good, we call. Depending on how deep we are, we need to prepare ourselves for the postflop action differently though. Shallow stacks are easy to play, as we just check jam all our made hands and print money. Deeper stacks are obv more difficult to play. Likely, on a 7xx board with 74o, I am looking to get to showdown cheap....
If stacks are shallow (20bb and under?) and you aren't prepared to stack off with 74o on 7xx flops then you shouldn't be calling preflop imo.
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Re: Bad Hands in the BB
Wow this really is the tag section of this forum
Nits itt
Nits itt
Smoker.B.- Posts : 586
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Re: Bad Hands in the BB
Smoker.B. wrote:Wow this really is the tag section of this forum
Nits itt
nice try. we all see thru it tho.
REEBS77- Posts : 294
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Re: Bad Hands in the BB
I'm Ripping 74o with less than 20bb on a 7 high flop , and a good chance our 4 hits hard with backdoors on the bottom 1/3 of the deck flop , I'm fist pump getting that in
Someone equity calc on 74o on 7xx flop against an over pair
Folding is hilarious
Someone equity calc on 74o on 7xx flop against an over pair
Folding is hilarious
Smoker.B.- Posts : 586
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Re: Bad Hands in the BB
Smoker.B. wrote:I'm Ripping 74o with less than 20bb on a 7 high flop , and a good chance our 4 hits hard with backdoors on the bottom 1/3 of the deck flop , I'm fist pump getting that in
Someone equity calc on 74o on 7xx flop against an over pair
Folding is hilarious
Think u misread my post? I'm jamming under 20 beibs too I said. D
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Re: Bad Hands in the BB
Smoker.B. wrote:I'm Ripping 74o with less than 20bb on a 7 high flop , and a good chance our 4 hits hard with backdoors on the bottom 1/3 of the deck flop , I'm fist pump getting that in
Someone equity calc on 74o on 7xx flop against an over pair
Folding is hilarious
assume the flop is 7d6s2h:
ok lets say ep minraised with a pretty tight range.... AA-77,AKo-AJo,KQo,AKs-ATs,KQs (8.75%).... we have 55% eq with 7h4c on the flop
In this situation, villain will have overpairs to our 7h4c about 38% of the time. He will have ace high 47% of the time and no made hand 15%. Interesting to note that a majority of the deck will result in us having 60% eq on the turn vs that same opening range (not vs his continuing range). As long as it comes T or lower, it looks good for us.
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If we change his opening range to a bit looser (16.4%) AA-22,AKo-A9o,KQo-KJo,AKs-A7s,KQs-KTs,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s .... we have 61.7% eq with 7h4c on the flop
In this situation, villain will have overpairs to our 7h4c about 21% of the time. He will have weak pairs 7.5% of the time. He will have ace high 41.5% of the time and no made hand 26%. In this case, vs his opening range, almost the entire deck (up to Q) will give us over 55% eq on the turn.
REEBS77- Posts : 294
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Re: Bad Hands in the BB
Ty for running those numbers bud
Hope this was eye opening foe u nits out there !!
Hope this was eye opening foe u nits out there !!
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