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Full Tilt Poker Game #32117816747: $10,000 Guarantee (249243689), Table 6  1000/2000 Ante 250  No Limit Hold'em  23:06:54 PT  2013/02/14 [02:06:54 ET  2013/02/15]
Seat 1: Bcboy72 (124,933)
Seat 2: KZnova (24,429)
Seat 3: Fioba Maritan (15,988), is sitting out
Seat 4: cmucho (67,935)
Seat 5: Sofeefee (37,426)
Seat 6: ArKip89 (9,693)
Seat 7: sammy_grinder (81,669)
Seat 9: WillyWartaaL (165,818)
Bcboy72 antes 250
KZnova antes 250
Fioba Maritan antes 250
cmucho antes 250
Sofeefee antes 250
ArKip89 antes 250
sammy_grinder antes 250
WillyWartaaL antes 250
KZnova posts the small blind of 1,000
Fioba Maritan posts the big blind of 2,000
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bcboy72 [Qd 7d]
cmucho folds
Sofeefee folds
ArKip89 folds
sammy_grinder folds
WillyWartaaL folds
Bcboy72 raises to 4,000
KZnova raises to 24,179, and is all in
Fioba Maritan folds
Bcboy72 has 15 seconds left to act
Bcboy72 has requested TIME
He is platinum, but new to the table...not a lot to work with. Range has to be pretty wide?
Full Tilt Poker Game #32117816747: $10,000 Guarantee (249243689), Table 6  1000/2000 Ante 250  No Limit Hold'em  23:06:54 PT  2013/02/14 [02:06:54 ET  2013/02/15]
Seat 1: Bcboy72 (124,933)
Seat 2: KZnova (24,429)
Seat 3: Fioba Maritan (15,988), is sitting out
Seat 4: cmucho (67,935)
Seat 5: Sofeefee (37,426)
Seat 6: ArKip89 (9,693)
Seat 7: sammy_grinder (81,669)
Seat 9: WillyWartaaL (165,818)
Bcboy72 antes 250
KZnova antes 250
Fioba Maritan antes 250
cmucho antes 250
Sofeefee antes 250
ArKip89 antes 250
sammy_grinder antes 250
WillyWartaaL antes 250
KZnova posts the small blind of 1,000
Fioba Maritan posts the big blind of 2,000
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bcboy72 [Qd 7d]
cmucho folds
Sofeefee folds
ArKip89 folds
sammy_grinder folds
WillyWartaaL folds
Bcboy72 raises to 4,000
KZnova raises to 24,179, and is all in
Fioba Maritan folds
Bcboy72 has 15 seconds left to act
Bcboy72 has requested TIME
He is platinum, but new to the table...not a lot to work with. Range has to be pretty wide?
Superman Posts : 124
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Re: math help I think
Just post odds vs hand equity right?
How much to call vs. how much to win?
How much to call vs. how much to win?
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Re: math help I think
yep, I think so...I am thinking a resteal range of 77+ AJS, AQ+...that might be a bit tight? I have opened a fair bit...so, he may be seeing that.
Should have something like 3540% equity?
STill playing...so haven't done the math..figured you had nothing better to do and it might help someone else out later
Should have something like 3540% equity?
STill playing...so haven't done the math..figured you had nothing better to do and it might help someone else out later
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Re: math help I think
ya this is def homeword for you because you need to be able to do this on the spot in game 100s of times a session. I know you knwo how the math is done (right?) but if you need help with mental short cuts lemme know
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Re: math help I think
If I am doing it right...
29k in the pot, 20k to call....
.68, need 32% equity to call?
If my range was (albeit tight) correct, I was only about 30%.. I think his range could be bigger though..maybe 44+,A9s+,KQs,QTs,JTs,T9s,AJo+,KQo, that would give me 34%..
Guess I am ok with fold or call..would have to depend on my perception at the time...in which I think I felt he was pretty strong there and my Q could be dominated by a lot/some of hands that he might jam with?
29k in the pot, 20k to call....
.68, need 32% equity to call?
If my range was (albeit tight) correct, I was only about 30%.. I think his range could be bigger though..maybe 44+,A9s+,KQs,QTs,JTs,T9s,AJo+,KQo, that would give me 34%..
Guess I am ok with fold or call..would have to depend on my perception at the time...in which I think I felt he was pretty strong there and my Q could be dominated by a lot/some of hands that he might jam with?
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Re: math help I think
Is it 29k/20k = 1.45 + 1 = 2.45 but then we flip it 1/2.45 = 40%?
I could be wrong but if its correct we can go over the short cuts ways too.
I could be wrong but if its correct we can go over the short cuts ways too.
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hmm..I just did 20/29= .68... leaving 32% needed...I could very well be doing this wrong..and am too wide
In my poor defence...it's been awhile since I did any poker math..lol...and this is off the top of my tin can infused skull...
In my poor defence...it's been awhile since I did any poker math..lol...and this is off the top of my tin can infused skull...
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I don't think thats the math, we have to go the other way, the short cut will actually help you understand.Superman wrote:hmm..I just did 20/29= .68... leaving 32% needed...I could very well be doing this wrong..and am too wide
In my poor defence...it's been awhile since I did any poker math..lol...and this is off the top of my tin can infused skull...
if the is 100 in the pot and its 50 to call its 2 to our 1.
its always 100% total
33 + 33 + 33 = 100 so 2 to 1 is 66/33
3 to 1 would be 25 + 25 + 25 to 25 so 75/25
That is the idea, its not optimal for me to try to teach it in a single post, but that should jog your memory on the whole thing.
If you are adopting a wider min raise strategy then you need to have this nailed!
There reason is this will become automatic to you they tricky part will be guesing the equity your hand has vs his range (cause we don't always have poker stove)
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Re: math help I think
Our pot odds here are basically 32 (30k20k for quick math), so yeah, 6040..fine, be that way.
At least I had my ranges close for on the fly..lol
At least I had my ranges close for on the fly..lol
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This is what you knew I knew you knew.Superman wrote:Our pot odds here are basically 32 (30k20k for quick math)
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