# math help I think

## math help I think

Think I missed this...

Full Tilt Poker Game #32117816747: $10,000 Guarantee (249243689), Table 6 - 1000/2000 Ante 250 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:06:54 PT - 2013/02/14 [02:06:54 ET - 2013/02/15]

Seat 1: Bcboy72 (124,933)

Seat 2: KZnova (24,429)

Seat 3: Fioba Maritan (15,988), is sitting out

Seat 4: cmucho (67,935)

Seat 5: Sofeefee (37,426)

Seat 6: ArKip89 (9,693)

Seat 7: sammy_grinder (81,669)

Seat 9: WillyWartaaL (165,818)

Bcboy72 antes 250

KZnova antes 250

Fioba Maritan antes 250

cmucho antes 250

Sofeefee antes 250

ArKip89 antes 250

sammy_grinder antes 250

WillyWartaaL antes 250

KZnova posts the small blind of 1,000

Fioba Maritan posts the big blind of 2,000

The button is in seat #1

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Bcboy72 [Qd 7d]

cmucho folds

Sofeefee folds

ArKip89 folds

sammy_grinder folds

WillyWartaaL folds

Bcboy72 raises to 4,000

KZnova raises to 24,179, and is all in

Fioba Maritan folds

Bcboy72 has 15 seconds left to act

Bcboy72 has requested TIME

He is platinum, but new to the table...not a lot to work with. Range has to be pretty wide?

Full Tilt Poker Game #32117816747: $10,000 Guarantee (249243689), Table 6 - 1000/2000 Ante 250 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:06:54 PT - 2013/02/14 [02:06:54 ET - 2013/02/15]

Seat 1: Bcboy72 (124,933)

Seat 2: KZnova (24,429)

Seat 3: Fioba Maritan (15,988), is sitting out

Seat 4: cmucho (67,935)

Seat 5: Sofeefee (37,426)

Seat 6: ArKip89 (9,693)

Seat 7: sammy_grinder (81,669)

Seat 9: WillyWartaaL (165,818)

Bcboy72 antes 250

KZnova antes 250

Fioba Maritan antes 250

cmucho antes 250

Sofeefee antes 250

ArKip89 antes 250

sammy_grinder antes 250

WillyWartaaL antes 250

KZnova posts the small blind of 1,000

Fioba Maritan posts the big blind of 2,000

The button is in seat #1

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Bcboy72 [Qd 7d]

cmucho folds

Sofeefee folds

ArKip89 folds

sammy_grinder folds

WillyWartaaL folds

Bcboy72 raises to 4,000

KZnova raises to 24,179, and is all in

Fioba Maritan folds

Bcboy72 has 15 seconds left to act

Bcboy72 has requested TIME

He is platinum, but new to the table...not a lot to work with. Range has to be pretty wide?

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## Re: math help I think

Just post odds vs hand equity right?

How much to call vs. how much to win?

How much to call vs. how much to win?

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## Re: math help I think

yep, I think so...I am thinking a resteal range of 77+ AJS, AQ+...that might be a bit tight? I have opened a fair bit...so, he may be seeing that.

Should have something like 35-40% equity?

STill playing...so haven't done the math..figured you had nothing better to do and it might help someone else out later

Should have something like 35-40% equity?

STill playing...so haven't done the math..figured you had nothing better to do and it might help someone else out later

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## Re: math help I think

ya this is def homeword for you because you need to be able to do this on the spot in game 100s of times a session. I know you knwo how the math is done (right?) but if you need help with mental short cuts lemme know

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## Re: math help I think

If I am doing it right...

29k in the pot, 20k to call....

.68, need 32% equity to call?

If my range was (albeit tight) correct, I was only about 30%.. I think his range could be bigger though..maybe 44+,A9s+,KQs,QTs,JTs,T9s,AJo+,KQo, that would give me 34%..

Guess I am ok with fold or call..would have to depend on my perception at the time...in which I think I felt he was pretty strong there and my Q could be dominated by a lot/some of hands that he might jam with?

29k in the pot, 20k to call....

.68, need 32% equity to call?

If my range was (albeit tight) correct, I was only about 30%.. I think his range could be bigger though..maybe 44+,A9s+,KQs,QTs,JTs,T9s,AJo+,KQo, that would give me 34%..

Guess I am ok with fold or call..would have to depend on my perception at the time...in which I think I felt he was pretty strong there and my Q could be dominated by a lot/some of hands that he might jam with?

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## Re: math help I think

Is it 29k/20k = 1.45 + 1 = 2.45 but then we flip it 1/2.45 = 40%?

I could be wrong but if its correct we can go over the short cuts ways too.

I could be wrong but if its correct we can go over the short cuts ways too.

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## Re: math help I think

hmm..I just did 20/29= .68... leaving 32% needed...I could very well be doing this wrong..and am too wide

In my poor defence...it's been awhile since I did any poker math..lol...and this is off the top of my tin can infused skull...

In my poor defence...it's been awhile since I did any poker math..lol...and this is off the top of my tin can infused skull...

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## Re: math help I think

I don't think thats the math, we have to go the other way, the short cut will actually help you understand.Superman wrote:hmm..I just did 20/29= .68... leaving 32% needed...I could very well be doing this wrong..and am too wide

In my poor defence...it's been awhile since I did any poker math..lol...and this is off the top of my tin can infused skull...

if the is 100 in the pot and its 50 to call its 2 to our 1.

its always 100% total

33 + 33 + 33 = 100 so 2 to 1 is 66/33

3 to 1 would be 25 + 25 + 25 to 25 so 75/25

That is the idea, its not optimal for me to try to teach it in a single post, but that should jog your memory on the whole thing.

If you are adopting a wider min raise strategy then you need to have this nailed!

There reason is this will become automatic to you they tricky part will be guesing the equity your hand has vs his range (cause we don't always have poker stove)

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## Re: math help I think

Our pot odds here are basically 3-2 (30k-20k for quick math), so yeah, 60-40..fine, be that way.

At least I had my ranges close for on the fly..lol

At least I had my ranges close for on the fly..lol

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## Re: math help I think

This is what you knew I knew you knew.Superman wrote:Our pot odds here are basically 3-2 (30k-20k for quick math)

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