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What would you do?

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:28 pm

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PokerStars Hand #94803755621: Tournament #693519590, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (100/200) - 2013/02/28 17:19:25 ET
Table '693519590 33' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: 666magz666 (11738 in chips)
Seat 2: ryan1111 (4420 in chips)
Seat 3: DOTIEAS (2261 in chips)
Seat 4: MasterRabin (6165 in chips)
Seat 5: tuffari (6722 in chips)
Seat 6: K_One1988 (20040 in chips)
Seat 7: river_bernal (6074 in chips)
Seat 8: FlushStalker (6416 in chips)
Seat 9: ouchbadbeat (8300 in chips)
666magz666: posts the ante 25
ryan1111: posts the ante 25
DOTIEAS: posts the ante 25
MasterRabin: posts the ante 25
tuffari: posts the ante 25
K_One1988: posts the ante 25
river_bernal: posts the ante 25
FlushStalker: posts the ante 25
ouchbadbeat: posts the ante 25
DOTIEAS: posts small blind 100
MasterRabin: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ryan1111 [Ts Ac]
tuffari: folds
K_One1988: calls 200
river_bernal: folds
FlushStalker: folds
ouchbadbeat: folds
666magz666: folds
ryan1111: ???

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Re: What would you do?

Post  JodaB. on Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:06 pm

iso any pair any bw and some suited ace to about 555, call 10bbs stack pre, cbet any flop, shoving is ok too
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Re: What would you do?

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:13 pm

JodaB. wrote:iso any pair any bw and some suited ace to about 555, call 10bbs stack pre, cbet any flop, shoving is ok too

OK, what range would you assign him?

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Re: What would you do?

Post  JodaB. on Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:22 pm

you can't really at this point and don't need too.
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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:30 pm

JodaB. wrote:you can't really at this point and don't need too.
why not?

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Re: What would you do?

Post  JodaB. on Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:33 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:
JodaB. wrote:you can't really at this point and don't need too.
why not?
because everytime a guy limps like that you are going to ignore his range and iso with pair s and bw and cbet every flop
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Re: What would you do?

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:43 pm

JodaB. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:
JodaB. wrote:you can't really at this point and don't need too.
why not?
because everytime a guy limps like that you are going to ignore his range and iso with pair s and bw and cbet every flop

ok, just thought we always had to assign a range. Is this because, if we know that he doesnt have the top 5%, we at least have 50% equity if he calls

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Re: What would you do?

Post  JodaB. on Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:59 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:
JodaB. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:
JodaB. wrote:you can't really at this point and don't need too.
why not?
because everytime a guy limps like that you are going to ignore his range and iso with pair s and bw and cbet every flop

ok, just thought we always had to assign a range. Is this because, if we know that he doesnt have the top 5%, we at least have 50% equity if he calls
Why do we have to assign a range? what will we do with that range?
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Re: What would you do?

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:00 pm

So we can find the equity of our hand vs his hand range..... to help us decide whether we should shove or fold.




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Re: What would you do?

Post  JodaB. on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:14 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:So we can find the equity of our hand vs his hand range..... to help us decide whether we should shove or fold.



you don't have to shove tho, we are deep enough to pwn pst flop

his range for limping is like pairs and bw. So we will shove pairs and suited aces etc.
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Re: What would you do?

Post  sngking on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:27 pm

What is bw? Embarassed

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Re: What would you do?

Post  JodaB. on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:40 pm

sngking wrote:What is bw? Embarassed
good question Wink broadway. now re-read everything and it will make more sense rendeer
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Re: What would you do?

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:58 pm

JodaB. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:So we can find the equity of our hand vs his hand range..... to help us decide whether we should shove or fold.



you don't have to shove tho, we are deep enough to pwn pst flop

his range for limping is like pairs and bw. So we will shove pairs and suited aces etc.

was looking for something like that.. and you are right, we are a little to deep to ship, if our stack was 3k, shoving would be our first move.

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Re: What would you do?

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:03 pm

oh ya and the reason i asked about his range is because i wanted to compare it to the one i had assigned him (99-22,ATs-A2s,K2s+,QTs+,JTs,AJo-A2o,K2o+,QTo+,JTo) which i now know was wrong.

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Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:31 pm

going even further, if we iso with 22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo, how much tighter should we be if there are two limpers?

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Re: What would you do?

Post  JodaB. on Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:34 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:going even further, if we iso with 22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo, how much tighter should we be if there are two limpers?
i'm not exactly sure have never asked someone who knows for sure, but you can just usually iso for value vs 2 players, so hand we will stack off with only. hands that are good but we won't stack off we can flat to see flop like TT.

If we are shoving its pretty situation dependent.
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Re: What would you do?

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:59 pm

ok kool tyty

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Re: What would you do?

Post  sngking on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:30 am

JodaB. wrote:
sngking wrote:What is bw? Embarassed
good question Wink broadway. now re-read everything and it will make more sense rendeer


haha that's it! I was drawing a blank there. Smile

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