FTP $11r super fml spot on river
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FTP $11r super fml spot on river
RedCap is a good aggro reg and we both ft'd this tourney last week, he won it, I finished 4th, but I think he has at least some respect for my game.
When I used to be a huge nit Id usually check-call river here but have history with him and won a nice pot 5 hands earlier where I open KJ he defends BB flop Kxx he check calls turn T we cc and river J he checks I bomb he calls K9s and I win nice pot. I mean I guess this hand isnt too relevant but figure it might help with read on villain or how villain perceives my betting.
anyways heres the spot:
[7:33:05 PM] Jules: Full Tilt Poker Game #32259406541: The TenneR (250414178), Table 27 - 6000/12000 Ante 1500 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:23:10 ET - 2013/03/06
Seat 2: snejokCoxx (278,032)
Seat 3: julesdAA (271,788)
Seat 4: cu chulainn ak (503,891)
Seat 6: RedCap85 (731,974)
Seat 7: ArKip89 (133,892)
Seat 9: EandD1982 (164,423)
snejokCoxx antes 1,500
julesdAA antes 1,500
cu chulainn ak antes 1,500
RedCap85 antes 1,500
ArKip89 antes 1,500
EandD1982 antes 1,500
snejokCoxx posts the small blind of 6,000
julesdAA posts the big blind of 12,000
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to julesdAA [Ac 7c]
cu chulainn ak folds
RedCap85 raises to 24,000
ArKip89 folds
EandD1982 folds
snejokCoxx folds
julesdAA calls 12,000
*** FLOP *** [Qc 2s 6c] (Total Pot: 63,000, 2 Players)
julesdAA checks
RedCap85 has 15 seconds left to act
RedCap85 bets 27,554
julesdAA calls 27,554
*** TURN *** [Qc 2s 6c] [Td] (Total Pot: 118,108, 2 Players)
julesdAA checks
RedCap85 has 15 seconds left to act
RedCap85 checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 2s 6c Td] [Ah] (Total Pot: 118,108, 2 Players)
julesdAA bets 46,062
RedCap85 has 15 seconds left to act
RedCap85 has requested TIME
RedCap85 raises to 678,920, and is all in
julesdAA has 15 seconds left to act
julesdAA ??
fwiw I think call pre is fine, defending A7s getting a good price against a guy opening a pretty wide range w/ CL at final table.
also what are your thoughts on a flop CR, I figure check call is decent considering our A high will be good a decent amount of the time.
I really hate my river sizing bc it KINDAAAAA looks like a blocker bet.
When I used to be a huge nit Id usually check-call river here but have history with him and won a nice pot 5 hands earlier where I open KJ he defends BB flop Kxx he check calls turn T we cc and river J he checks I bomb he calls K9s and I win nice pot. I mean I guess this hand isnt too relevant but figure it might help with read on villain or how villain perceives my betting.
anyways heres the spot:
[7:33:05 PM] Jules: Full Tilt Poker Game #32259406541: The TenneR (250414178), Table 27 - 6000/12000 Ante 1500 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:23:10 ET - 2013/03/06
Seat 2: snejokCoxx (278,032)
Seat 3: julesdAA (271,788)
Seat 4: cu chulainn ak (503,891)
Seat 6: RedCap85 (731,974)
Seat 7: ArKip89 (133,892)
Seat 9: EandD1982 (164,423)
snejokCoxx antes 1,500
julesdAA antes 1,500
cu chulainn ak antes 1,500
RedCap85 antes 1,500
ArKip89 antes 1,500
EandD1982 antes 1,500
snejokCoxx posts the small blind of 6,000
julesdAA posts the big blind of 12,000
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to julesdAA [Ac 7c]
cu chulainn ak folds
RedCap85 raises to 24,000
ArKip89 folds
EandD1982 folds
snejokCoxx folds
julesdAA calls 12,000
*** FLOP *** [Qc 2s 6c] (Total Pot: 63,000, 2 Players)
julesdAA checks
RedCap85 has 15 seconds left to act
RedCap85 bets 27,554
julesdAA calls 27,554
*** TURN *** [Qc 2s 6c] [Td] (Total Pot: 118,108, 2 Players)
julesdAA checks
RedCap85 has 15 seconds left to act
RedCap85 checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 2s 6c Td] [Ah] (Total Pot: 118,108, 2 Players)
julesdAA bets 46,062
RedCap85 has 15 seconds left to act
RedCap85 has requested TIME
RedCap85 raises to 678,920, and is all in
julesdAA has 15 seconds left to act
julesdAA ??
fwiw I think call pre is fine, defending A7s getting a good price against a guy opening a pretty wide range w/ CL at final table.
also what are your thoughts on a flop CR, I figure check call is decent considering our A high will be good a decent amount of the time.
I really hate my river sizing bc it KINDAAAAA looks like a blocker bet.
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Re: FTP $11r super fml spot on river
I don't think its crazy to flat here, but the worry is you will get dominated by A8+ alot, this spot seems like a good example. I feel like A5s and A9s are much better flats, and wonder if we might have room to CIB 3bet btp style, he would know best. I think it would be a good spot for it.AlreadyBeenVaped wrote:
fwiw I think call pre is fine, defending A7s getting a good price against a guy opening a pretty wide range w/ CL at final table.
Its easier for me to do that playing 150 games a day. I think its optimal if we only have about 23bbs pre we can justify a check shove vs a decent sized cbet expecting TT JJ and better aces to fold. When I say optimal though I play quite loose and aggressive and count on my image to include a check shove here. Might not be optimal for everyone.also what are your thoughts on a flop CR,
possible but you cut yourself alot vs dominated aces, especially if an ace hits....not that its a fold but just a big consideration especially depending on your opponent.I figure check call is decent considering our A high will be good a decent amount of the time.
It IS a blocker bet i think We can surely fold here (I can't tell what odds we are getting though but can't be that great), but I think you are making a very thin at best value bet and check calling is prob better (folding to a shove etc.), but bet folding small can't be that bad.I really hate my river sizing bc it KINDAAAAA looks like a blocker bet.
If I bet fold small then I always make sure I balance vs thinking regs if I think I have to, but I usually play with initiative in spots like this too, and in that case I can 3bet pre, cbet the flop, check/check turn, check call river and pick up bluffs since it looks like I gave up.
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Re: FTP $11r super fml spot on river
pretty much a perfect reply, thanks bud
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Re: FTP $11r super fml spot on river
stoked to have you out!!!AlreadyBeenVaped wrote:pretty much a perfect reply, thanks bud
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