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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:38 pm

you want me to add some hands for spew?

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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  JodaB. on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:42 pm

No my post got erased, 2questions

If villain were to shove that entire range what hands would we call with?

What hands does villain fold/call to our 3bet shove?

(doesn't matter if you don't have a calculator)
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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:57 pm

against that range i call 55+,ATs+,KJs+,ATo+,KQo

I think he folds this range 44-22,QTs,JTs,KJo-KTo,QTo+,JTo
I think he calls this range 55+,ATs+,KTs+,QJs,ATo+,KQo

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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  JodaB. on Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:01 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:against that range i call 55+,ATs+,KJs+,ATo+,KQo

I think he folds this range 44-22,QTs,JTs,KJo-KTo,QTo+,JTo
I think he calls this range 55+,ATs+,KTs+,QJs,ATo+,KQo
looks pretty good, of course we can look at hemr to find a more accurate range. So your 3bet range vs his min raise range will be wider than your calling range if he shoved right?

Depending on if you have little, some, or a lot of fold equity you will shove wider.

I think here though we can't go much wider because the bb is all in and we have no stealing incentive to try and 3bet

I think all pair are prob ok though.
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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:08 pm

so how do we open this range up with fold equity?

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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  JodaB. on Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:11 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:so how do we open this range up with fold equity?
slighter wider?
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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:31 pm

better yet how do we determine how much fold eq we have?

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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  JodaB. on Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:32 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:better yet how do we determine how much fold eq we have?
fold equity is a ratio of hands villain raises vs hands they fold (we defined it around the 6th post)
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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:48 pm

JodaB. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:so how do we open this range up with fold equity?
slighter wider?

to adding 22+, i got a lost at the end there.

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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  JodaB. on Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:03 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:
JodaB. wrote:
RWPKRPLR1 wrote:so how do we open this range up with fold equity?
slighter wider?

to adding 22+, i got a lost at the end there.
no im saying regardless you can add 22
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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  RWPKRPLR1 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:07 pm

ohh so that was your conclusion our 3bet range for this hand is 22+,ATs+,KJs+,ATo+,KQo

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Re: 3 bet shove spot

Post  JodaB. on Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:45 pm

RWPKRPLR1 wrote:ohh so that was your conclusion our 3bet range for this hand is 22+,ATs+,KJs+,ATo+,KQo
yup seems decent
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